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Mortis Aguila
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Posted - 2013.10.25 18:27:00 -
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I've only been running Incursions for about two months. So I have little objective knowledge of "how things used to be". But from what little exposure I've had to inter-community politics and the infantile temper tantrums resulting from lost in-site contests, the current state of Incursions appears to me to be #BROKEN#.
In recent weeks, one or two shield Incursion communities have taken it upon themselves (for whatever reason) to ruin the gameplay for all Incursion runners by killing the Mothership as soon as it appears, lately within 12-16 hours of the Incursion first spawning, rather than leaving it up for a few days so players can get a chance to run HQ, Assault and Vanguard sites without having to travel 30+ jumps every day to get to the next spawn.
At the risk of incurring the wrath of those who claim "Eve is a sandbox! Wah, wah, wah!" whenever somebody complains about a broken game mechanic, I'd like to make a suggestion to fix the problem:
Since the primary motivation of the above referenced shield communities for popping the mom appears to be to grief the entire Incursions community as punishment for perceived offenses committed by one or more armor communities, I suggest changing the spawn mechanic to remove the detrimental effect to the entire Incursions community. This can be done by re-spawning another Incursion in the same location as the one just killed if the mom is popped less than seven days after appearing. Over-farming of the mom site can be prevented by removing the reward for completing the site if it is run within a week of the mothership's appearance. It doesn't need to be a week, just a reasonable length of time to discourage childish temper tantrums which diminish the enjoyment of the game for the greater community.
Waiting expectantly for the rants of the griefers whose entire reason for playing is to think of ways to make as many people as possible angry. :3 |

Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.10.26 18:15:00 -
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Didn't expect sympathy. Did expect ridicule. Just documenting (again) that douchebaggery is rampant and encouraged in this game. |

Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.10.27 15:44:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote: Remove ALL other sites when the mothership spawns. 100% risk free isk faucets are a BAD THING, this would at least turn off the flow early.
Destruction of the mothership does not increase or reduce risk to the fleets while running incursion sites. It simply ends the incursion. Those of us who want to participate in incursions and do not have the means of assembling a fleet capable of running the Kundalini Manifest site are cut off from running the lower tiered sites due to the almost immediate destruction of the mothership as soon as it appears. My complaint is not that fleets capable of killing the mom are killing the mom. That's the purpose of the site.
I have no facts, just hearsay to back this up, but it appears certain shield communities are intentionally running back-to-back HQ sites, not merely to reap the ISK/LP rewards for those sites, but primarily to run the red out of the bar and causing the mom to spawn, then immediately kill it. Again, not primarily to reap the ISK/LP rewards, but to deny access to that incursion by all players as soon as possible. Again, hearsay tells me that the reason they are doing this is in response to being butthurt over armor fleets occasionally contesting a site, and sometimes winning those contests.
While I can understand the irritation of having to deal with a contest when you're trying to run sites, I don't think it adheres to the spirit of the game to pitch a hissy-fit and intentionally take a dump in EVERYBODY'S oatmeal. |

Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:26:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:I have no facts, just hearsay to back this up, but it appears certain shield communities are intentionally running back-to-back HQ sites, not merely to reap the ISK/LP rewards for those sites, but primarily to run the red out of the bar and causing the mom to spawn, then immediately kill it. Again, not primarily to reap the ISK/LP rewards, but to deny access to that incursion by all players as soon as possible. Again, hearsay tells me that the reason they are doing this is in response to being butthurt over armor fleets occasionally contesting a site, and sometimes winning those contests. What if they just legitimately want to rid highsec of the Sansha menace as fast as possible? If true, that would be very heroic of them. I would arrange a ticker tape parade in their honor. |

Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:18:00 -
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In hindsight, this was probably the wrong place to post in an effort to instigate an uproar at the behavior of certain Incursion communities. Apologies for that. In response to the commentor who thinks denying access to the Incursions gameplay to the entire Eve community because they got their panties in a twist about being contested by a fleet from another community in a site ... I'm glad you didn't have access to nuclear weapons when somebody picked on you in your childhood. |

Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.10.28 03:47:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:In hindsight, this was probably the wrong place to post in an effort to instigate an uproar at the behavior of certain Incursion communities. Apologies for that. In response to the commentor who thinks denying access to the Incursions gameplay to the entire Eve community because they got their panties in a twist about being contested by a fleet from another community in a site ... I'm glad you didn't have access to nuclear weapons when somebody picked on you in your childhood. Which one? Which one what? |

Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:14:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:In hindsight, this was probably the wrong place to post in an effort to instigate an uproar at the behavior of certain Incursion communities. Apologies for that. In response to the commentor who thinks denying access to the Incursions gameplay to the entire Eve community because they got their panties in a twist about being contested by a fleet from another community in a site ... I'm glad you didn't have access to nuclear weapons when somebody picked on you in your childhood. Yes, a forum where people recognize and point out that you're suffering consequences for your own actions was probably the wrong place to expect sympathy from. (sigh) Is it a requirement for you to be an insufferable f***ing d***head whenever you respond to people with whom you disagree? |

Mortis Aguila
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Posted - 2013.11.03 23:49:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:I'm not so sure about that, from what I see it seems to have spawned a large group of massively wealthy, incredibly overentitled fuckheads who whine shrilly and unendingly whenever anyone else 'dares' to touch what they think is theirs by right. Its like everything bad about highsec has been distilled into one group.
Yes people will shoot incursion motherships, in case you forgot thats what theyre ******* there for. What they are not there for is for you to sit on like Elvis on his throne farming more piles of isk to horde or spend on pointless bling. *Youve already been told what works against the tactics you described and the things you claim are stopping you are only stopping you because you cant be bothered to make the effort to address them.
*by you i mean the OP and his ilk*
(Insert clip of willy wonkas YOU GET NOTHING scene here) Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug. |

Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:52:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote: Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait... Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played. |

Mortis Aguila
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:04:00 -
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Samillian wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:Jint Hikaru wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote: Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait... Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played. You are only a victim because you insist on being one, that is obvious from your attitude throughout this thread. Have you actually done anything to modify your situation beside wringing your hands and crying for outside intervention? Yes, yes I have. But the entertainment value of stringing along you holier-than-thous for your anti-carebear self-righteous indignation is too priceless to just shut up and let it end. Do continue. :) |
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Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:38:00 -
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Samillian wrote:Ah so now we go from needy self entitlement to "I'm trolling you really......honest".
I wonder if that would still be the case if you had found a sympathetic ear.
Ah well 0/10 for a sad attempt to spin your way out of the hole you dug. You are correct. If I had received a sympathetic ear, I would have had no expectation to snicker at the overabundance of mean-spirited twats in this game who, rather than politely tell a carebear that his complaint is invalid, would rather take advantage of the anonymity of the internet to behave like insufferably juvenile douchebags. Again, thanks for the entertaining display of the dark side of human nature. I'm happy to return the favor by "whining" about it. Truly, a symbiotic relationship. |
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